A Word About Versions

Personally, I hold to the Authorized Version of 1611, commonly called the King James Version, nonetheless, I would not presume to tell anyone what they can or cannot read.

Amos 8:11-12 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: 12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

This prophecy is fulfilled today. Running from translation to translation but never able to say here we have the word of God. This is a better translation, it should have been translated this way, this manuscript is older than that one, my scholarship is better than your scholarship, we are lost is a sea of confusion, the famine of the word of God is here.

 English readers have access to more translations of the Bible than readers of any other language. The American Bible Society estimates that there have been around 900 full and partial biblical translations into English. Naturally, that staggering number isn’t readily available, but you can easily order more than 50 different translations in your favorite bookstore, and many more can be found in used bookstores and libraries.

If God did not preserve his word from the originals down through the centuries then we do not have his word. Men have forsaken and lost his word from time to time but God has always preserved it and brought it forth in the manner he chooses and in His timing.

2 Kings 22:8 And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.

Jeremiah 36:27-28 Then the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, after that the king had burned the roll, and the words which Baruch wrote at the mouth of Jeremiah, saying, 28Take thee again another roll, and write in it all the former words that were in the first roll, which Jehoiakim the king of Judah hath burned.

I am not looking for the best translation man can come up with. I am looking for the one God preserved and has revealed to be His.There are several truths about the Authorized Version of 1611 that I consider evidence to its veracity.

  • God chose to take 1,600 +/- to complete and compile the OT and the same for the NT. God does things like repeating history to reveal his hand in things.
  • No one has confesses that they have the inerrant preserved word of God in their hands unless holding a King James (Jacob) Version.
  • The King James Bible is the most loved, lauded, hated, disparaged, version of the Bible there is. Whatever is thought of it, it remains the center of the controversy.
  • There are three verse that state that man does not live by bread along but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4, Luke 4:4, and Dueteronomy 8:3. Do the math!
    •   4 : 4
        4 : 4
        8 : 3
      16 : 11
    You may, but I do not, believe in coincidence. Maybe there is a Bible code??

For more information on the subject I recomend KJV Today.

Where was the Bible before 1611? Are the proponents of the KJV saying that for 1600 years, there was no true bible?

This one is a favorite question of many. It may sound like a coup d'e tat, but it is really quite simple to reply to.

When Moses set his pen down, did the people have the entire Bible? No. The entire Old Testament? No. When David or Solomon laid their pens down did the entire Bible or Old Testament exist? No. The Old Testament did not exist until Malachi laid his pen down. Was it compiled in one Book at that time? No. Were there superfluous writings? Yes, the Old Testament testifies of this itself.

Joshua 10:13 ...Is not this written in the book of Jasher?

Were there corrupt writings? It is hard to imagine that there would not have been. If the prophets had there words recorded, I think the false prophets did also. It took over approximately sixteen-hundred years to write and compile the Old Testament. In the process of putting the Old Testament together and establishing what writings were and were not to be included some had to be accepted and some rejected. There were many, many copies made of various books during this time. Was this preservation and compilation solely the product of man's scholarship? If the hand of God was not directing the process and preserving his word then we do not have it.

During this period did the Old Testament exist, was there a Bible? No, not in complete form. Did that excuse anyone from not knowing the truth and adhering to it? No. God held everyone accountable anyway. In fact, he held everyone accountable anyway before any of it was written. So there must have been enough truth around for anyone who wanted it to get it. Is there a complete Old Testament, that we can rely and count on as the preserved word of God, in our possession now? Well, I for one believe so. The Lord had no trouble with the idea either. Was there ever a copy of the complete Old Testament that contain only original autographs? No. Did this stop anyone from having the preserved word of God? You judge.

Jeremiah 26:2 Thus saith the LORD; ...speak unto all the cities of Judah, ...all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:

Jeremiah 30:2 Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.

Luke 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet...

Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Matthew 12:3 ...Have ye not read what David did...

Matthew 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law...

Matthew 19:4 ...Have ye not read...

Matthew 21:16 ...And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read...

Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures...

Luke 4:16 ...he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

It does not seem that the Lord nor Paul had a problem with the authority of the books or copies and/or translations they had.

I would like to know what makes the scholars think that God changed his modus operandi with the New Testament? Did it take sixteen-hundred years to write the canon of the New Testament? No, significantly less time was appropriated by God to do the job. Since all the writers were adults at the time Christ walk with us, then it must not have taken more than 50-60 years for the writing of the New Testament to have been completed. Did it exist as one book at the time the writings were complete? No. The manuscripts in the 3rd and 4th centuries do not reflect the complete canon of Scripture.

Many manuscripts from that time until the 10th century found throughout Asia and Europe do not contain all the epistles and/or contain superfluous or corrupt additions. So for at least one thousands years after the completion of the canon their was little but partial New Testaments. Are the proponents of the KJV saying that for 1600 years, there was no true bible? I do not know of anyone who sets forth that position. Was there one complete book as we know it for all that time? No. Where there superfluous and corrupt writings being produce during this time? Yes. Even the NT testifies to the truth of this.

2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

The New Testament had to be compiled the same as the Old Testament, only in a much more difficult circumstance. There was no called out nation to bring it forth. During this process superfluous and corrupt writings had to be rejected and the correct ones accepted.

Was our Bible created, compiled, preserved and/or restored by the wisdom and scholarship of men? Was it not God working through man in his own fashion and in his own time? As well as Satan working through men to produce corruptions and confusion? Was there a totally complete Bible or revelation of God's word before the Authorized Version? Ooh, here is the rub. It is not for AV Bible believers to answer that question, it is for the detractors to do it. There are those who claim it to be heretical to think that the Authorized Version of 1611 is the complete final revelation of God's word.

Of course they continue to unearth new revelations and publish new versions, at least one a year, and believe that we will never have the completed revelation of God. However, it is also said, that it is certain that now, based on all the scholarship and wisdom and learning of men, that somewhere in all these versions we have recreated and restored virtually the exact original autographs. Just ask them were a absolute reliable copy of this is and watch the fun. Speaking concerning the Authorized Version of 1611 the following quotes from the preface of the New King James Version are of interest.

"If accuracy and strictest attention to the letter of the text be supposed to constitute an excellent version, this is of all versions the most excellent."

Alexander Geddes 1737-1802 Scottish, Catholic Biblical Scholar

"The translation was extraordinarily well done because to the translators what they were translating was not merely a curious collection of ancient books written by different authors in different stages of culture, but the Word of God divinely revealed through His chosen and expressly inspired scribes. In this conviction they carried out their work with boundless reverence and care and achieved a beautifully artistic result."

George Bernard Shaw Irish Dramatist, Essayist & Critic 1856-1950

It kind of makes one wonder why we needed a new version?