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Election

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False teaching and false teachers abound in the world, but we, the blood bought saints of God, have no excuse to be deceived by them. We can diligently study the Bible for ourselves. I ran across this little "biblical exegeses" on salvation while searching on the Internet.

If God works equally in the lives of all people and one accepts His invitation to salvation and another doesn't, where is the difference?...

Part of the source of this quandary lies within the initial premise: that God works equally in each individual's life.... this is not the case. First of all, God is what we term "omnipotent"; that is, He is all-powerful... the things He does are neither difficult nor easy for Him. Yoda from Star Wars fame, once said to his pupil Luke, "There is no try...only do or do not."... God... can never be thwarted in His desires,... God does not "try" to do anything; He either does it or does not do it. What occurs in our salvation is a direct reflection of this principle.

All men live at enmity with God.... There is nothing within us that would or could ever desire God.... What God does in the act of Salvation is alter our will to desire Him. He takes something that could never desire Him and causes it to desire nothing but Him and His glory. ...we can do nothing to resist Him.

Now He does not do this for everyone; it is entirely dependant on whom He chooses or elects.... He does not "try" to save — He either saves or does not save....

And this is to mean simply that we can have no hand in our salvation — though we bear the responsibility to trust in Christ to be saved, we can by no means come to that trust on our own....

Another point that might guide us to a better understanding is that it is not the love of God that determines who will be saved, rather it is the will (or decision-making faculty) of God. His love is what demands our well-being after the His will has chosen us to be God's children.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/elect.cfm

It is easy to see that this is a form of predestination, however, it is nice that the author lets us "bear the responsibility" of something we have no power or control over. What is amazing, however, is the fact that one can write all this and in the last paragraph condemn everything he has stated, “it is the will of God” that determines who will be saved!

1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

If it is the will of God then that he "will have all men to be saved," and that he is "not willing that any should perish." Then if God just does or doesn't according to his will without any conditions of choice we would all be saved. Seeing as we are not there must be some condition man has to meet.

John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Salvation is conditional, not on our works, or our merit, but on whether we will believe him, his word.

Numbers 14:11 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them?

It has always been whether or not we believe him. God is not giving us this faith, it is required of us. "How long will it be ere they believe me," God would know the answer if he were giving us the belief, as long as it takes for God to "do" it, according to Yoda. I am not sure Yoda is the man I want interpreting my Bible for me.

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